Indonesian comrades writes COMRADE! Hello there! and my respect to all of you! X,from Jakarta/ Indonesia here! With this letter I really want to know lots more about your MIM org. because for me MIM is a very great org! And about the situations in my country everyday always full of riots, chaos, racial tension/hatred, and lots more human rights violations happen here! As you know Indonesia is a very poor country and it's all because the greedy, bastard of our government leaders. I'm so very proud and happy if I can have one/any of M.I.M. t- shirt and books for me. Because it's so very impossible to find it in here, 'cause communism/marxism is an ILLEGAL IDEOLOGY! --Writer from Indonesia June, 2000 International Minister replies: Comrade, thank you for your kind words demonstrating international proletarian class consciousness. I'm afraid the party organization has no t-shirts or badges. It is encouraging to see the Maoist movement arising again in Indonesia and of course the ongoing struggle in the Philippines led by the CPP there. We have a link to their web page on our web page. With regard to the ruling clique of Indonesia, in every country there is a minority of people who will sell their country to be exploited by imperialists in return for an easy lifestyle. These puppets serve as the local faces on U.$. imperialist oppression. They accept U.$. weapons and training to carry out their designs against their own people. In Indonesia, Mao called these puppets compradors. They are indeed holding back the development of Indonesia and many other countries. The Yankee imperialists simply take advantage of the fact that in every country there is a portion of society willing to sell their country short. Best wishes in struggle. RAIL comrade writes on capital punishment under socialism Dear MIM: Regarding punishment of oppressors I am of the opinion that Mao is correct; heads are not like cabbages. When you cut them off they do not grow back again. Because of this reason I wish to express my absolute opposition to execution of imperialists after the revolution. First they might be reformed. Second we may make errors. Third we are not barbarians. Finally suppose that there would be a state capitalist coup like in China: the revisionists would have an example (and a bad one) of the injust act of the party to justify their killing. On the other hand I have no problem with treating scum like scum. I just think that it people make mistakes, can learn from them, but capitalist restoration could occur and would justify its reactionary oppression by a bad action of the party. Leadership by example is best, perhaps the only, form of leadership. If we set a bad example, we have no right to be surprised or upset that others copy it. This is why the party's line on monogamy (and I presume on drugs - in any event I advocate being straight edge) is correct. If we are disciplined and just then we have the right to act decisively in the face of decadence greed and other vice (I'm not a moral relativist). I do not know whether this question is a "line" issue, but thought that I should express my dissent with this position. I do not see an incompatability between my belief and being a member of rail. However if I am wrong or if what I think is inconsistent with being a member of MIM please let me know. International Minister replies: The comrade expresses "absolute opposition to execution of imperialists after the revolution." This position is fine for RAIL, but it would be revisionism in the party, and it isn't allowed there. This position is pre-scientific in the same way pacifist-anarchist literature generally is. (1) We are told that "after the revolution" all is peace. In actuality it means that the imperialists will put a lull in the war in the hopes of eliciting a disorganized and peaceful response from the oppressed. For this reason, the U.$. imperialists stopped bombing Vietnam several times before final Vietnamese victory in 1975--to lull the other side into complacency. In the pre-scientific view all that matters is iron-clad dogma, religious, "human rights" or otherwise. These people do not consider history--what actually happens in struggle. The French Revolution was horribly violent but it stopped a greater violence of feudalism in Europe. Likewise, the U.S. Civil War was the most modern and brutal war ever in many regards in history. Yet, "after" the Civil War, the KKK arose and lynched Black people for 100 years. The KKK arose with impunity because the class dictatorship was a bourgeois dictatorship. A few violent massacres of KKK lynch mobs would have brought peace for the next 100 years. Children would have learned right from wrong, but instead what happened was that Blacks were lynched by the KKK dissatisfied with the outcome of the U.S. Civil War. Hence, there is no justification for speaking about an "after" the revolution until advanced stages of communism are reached. It is a matter of cause and effect, not pious wishes. If a comrade cannot recognize that slavery ended because--as a matter of cause and effect--because of tremendous violence, then the comrade has no business calling him or herself Marxist. We Maoists are scientists and have no room for communist-anarchists or communist-Christians or communist-pacifists. (2) Quoting Mao on cabbages in this context shows a lack of scientific attention to detail. First, in the same famous passage where Mao says people's heads aren't leeks and don't grow back, he also affirms the necessity of revolutionary violence. "In future, in suppressing counter-revolution in our society we must make fewer arrests and carry out fewer executions... ITAL But we should not declare that we shall never execute anyone. END We cannot abolish the death penalty. If a counter-revolutionary were to commit murder or to blow up a factory, do you think he should be executed? He most definitely should."(Stuart Schram, ed. ITAL Chairman Mao Talks to the People, END p. 78, emphasis added) Second, Mao was not talking about imperialists. There were no imperialists being executed in China. At most there was an occasional U.S. spy who might be counted as imperialist. An imperialist with a record of contributing to the revolution should be left alone. An imperialist with a record of blood crimes will have to face People's Tribunals under the dictatorship of the proletariat--which is the government phase necessary until there are no causes of oppressive violence anymore. The "dictatorship of the proletariat" is not a phrase we will allow pre-scientific religious, anarchist, pacifist or human- rights activists to empty of all meaning. If comrades do not understand or agree with the idea of cause and effect for why there is an interim dictatorship of the proletariat on the way to communism, they do not belong in a Maoist party. We do believe the humyn race does make progress, through organized progressive violence. Mao = butcher? Maoism = hot air? Dear MIM Notes, I was just reading your paper, and I felt that I needed to respond. First of all, using Mao as the ideal for your group is not a good idea. He is responsible for the death of millions of people. He didn't believe in human rights, and he certainly didn't believe in equality. Any group that claims to be in favor of human rights and equality should not be named after somebody like him. Second, the rhetoric that you use is very tired. Imperialist, Amerikkkan, and Fascist are all terms you use for the United States. America means many things to many people, but it is not a fascist country. Mao is closer to being a fascist than George Washington, or Bill Clinton, or even Ronald Reagan. Forcing your beliefs on other people, and killing or imprisoning them if they disagree with you is a fascist thing to do. Now, I know what you are thinking. "This guy has been brainwashed." That isn't true. I actually agree with many critiques of the United States. We are sometimes imperialist, we do use people for profit, and we do force our beliefs on people. In addition, there is a great deal of inequality in this country that is based on race and class. It is important to understand that these are problems that have faced humans ever since communities and states were formed, and they are things that we must always strive to correct. In America, as opposed to the China or the former Soviet Union, it is possible to change things through the system. Saying you are going to do it through a revolution is the easy way out. If there was going to be a communist revolution, it would have happened already. I think that trying to get on the ballot and working to develop a grass roots political group is much harder than printing a newspaper filled with generic rhetoric. Anyway, the issues are not black and white, and there are many factors that you need to explore before making claims about fascism or imperialism. I respect your right to your opinion, as I hope you respect the right of everyone else's opinions. Democracy needs constant debate on the issues from all different perspectives, and I think that with a different approach, the MIM group could contribute something. Sincerely, --a student in the Midwest, 12 January, 2000 MIM responds: Thanks for taking the time to write. We hope your willingness to write a serious letter critiquing our newspaper means that you'll also take the time to stop by one of our public events in your city. These are often educational events that begin with a documentary film or a lecture; good occasions to get into some of the issues you raise in more detail. We also refer you to our website which answers all the questions you ask in more detail (with sources cited of course) than we do here (Frequently Asked Questions list at: www.prisoncensorship.info/archive/etext/faq/). We don't know if you are politically active now, but it sounds like you should be, with whatever organization is doing the most work to address your political concerns. If you are opposed to imperialism (even as you think this country is sometimes not imperialist), we encourage you to think about working with MIM, if only in a limited way, around the issues that we agree. We'll start our response to your letter by clarifying that talk about humyn rights is inseparable from class, nation, and gender struggles. These struggles exist (whether one recognizes them or not) and influence how one defines humyn rights -- and what one does to secure them. Housing, health care, education, employment, and food are basic humyn needs, which we believe the masses are entitled to. Even today these essentials are not available to the majority of people worldwide, because of the so-called property rights of a handful: Landlords and capitalists who live off the labor of others. With that in mind, we talk about China's record under Mao by looking at the extent to which the revolutionary struggle against feudalism, capitalism, and imperialism guaranteed basic survival rights. For example, under Mao, China dramatically lowered the infant mortality rate. By 1972 fewer infants per thousand born died in Shanghai than did in New York in the same year. (source: Ruth Sidel, ITAL Women and Childcare in China END) The percentage of children enrolled in primary schools grew from 20% in 1949 (the year of the Chinese socialist revolution) to 85% in 1965. (source: American Journal of Sociology September, 1997) Socialist China addressed the heath needs of the people by training thousands and thousands of barefoot doctors, "peasants [who] worked in their village to prevent disease and injury, improve sanitation, and treat common medical problems." (source: "Myths about Maoism," in the pamphlet "What is MIM?") Moving on. The issue of rhetoric ("Amerikkka" etc.) should be of minimal importance to those who agree in substance. The language MIM uses reflects the fact that the oppressed are justly angry at this system. Regarding the specific criticisms raised: MIM refers to Amerika with a "k" (or with three) to combat the idea that "America" is a homogeneous nation, a melting-pot. Amerika is an empire, founded on land stolen through genocide and with labor stolen through kidnapping and torture. Imperialism has a specific meaning, defined by Lenin in his book of the same name. It refers to the highest stage of capitalism, when monopoly capital must expand by investing abroad, when competing blocs of monopoly capitalists have divided the whole world between them, when monopoly capitalists use military means to preserve their rule and weaken their competitors. As to fascism: MIM considers the prison system to be an example of burgeoning fascism in the united $tates. We also point out consistently that this country and its military support fascism overseas. More specifically, fascism refers to the merging of capital with the state, in order to preserve bourgeois rule and forcibly extract labor. For all of Bill Clinton's whining about Chinese prisons, the united snakes forcibly extracts labor from many of its nearly 2 million prisoners. Lastly, we want to make clear that revolution is not the easy way out, it is the only way out for the oppressed. The imperialists are not going to give up their power or put down their guns without a fight. It would be infinitely easier if we could get rid of this rotten system by running electoral candidates and working for reforms. But history has demonstrated the failure of that method to make any but the most superficial of changes. Revolutionary struggle is far from easy work. The workers and peasants waging this battle daily in the Third World face injury and death to fight imperialism. But for them the alternative is suffering and death at the hands of the imperialists if they do not stand up. They may die in the revolutionary struggle but their deaths will contribute to a better world for others. Amnesty International's bourgeois idealism falls short Dear MIM, Attention: There is a worldwide organization that is against what happened to inmates David Osborn and Reginal Lavergenes. This organization also opposes any brutality, electro-shock, ill- treatment or torture, and the death penalty. They are against hostage taking, killings of prisoners, and other arbitrary killings. If you write to them they will send the following: a questionnaire that is to be filled out as completely as you can, a cover letter describing the organization, a report of what they have accomplished so far in the USA and an eight page list of information resources: Amnesty International-USA section 322 Eighth Ave New York, NY 10001-4808 -- a Michigan prisoner, 5 January, 2000 MIM responds: We occasionally print other organizations' contact information in our newspaper because we believe that activists should not be "geographic opportunists" and work only with whatever party or mass organization is convenient. We encourage our supporters and detractors to check out other groups and compare their line and practice with ours. Amnesty has contributed some good research to the world of anti-prisons activism, and its advocacy has no doubt made a difference in the lives of some individual prisoners. And prisoners in the united snakes generally may be able to get useful information from Amnesty. But MIM has serious disagreements with Amnesty's approach to organizing, particularly to the idealist, supra-class tone of its work. Amnesty claims to take no political stance, and to work purely in the interest of humyn rights. But (as we discuss further in the response to the next letter) defining what humyn rights are and how to struggle for them is a class, and hence political, issue. By refusing to defend prisoners who took up arms (or advocated the use of arms) to overthrow reactionary regimes, Amnesty illegitimatizes revolutionary armed struggle. At the same time, Amnesty legitimizes the right of bourgeois states to use violence against the masses (within certain limits, Amnesty would say). This limits the oppressed to the electoral struggle, dominated by the bourgeoisie, while at the same time sanctioning the bourgeoisie's monopoly on organized violence. Ironically, Amnesty doesn't even measure up to the standards laid out in the Amerikan Declaration of Independence: "[W]hen a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object, evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future safety." The authors of that document did not limit themselves to parliamentary struggle. MIM believes any organization working for an end to oppression must come forward and state clearly what groups of people are oppressed and what groups of people are the oppressors. To speak of oppression in moralist, individualist terms only prolongs the life of this brutal system. It distracts the masses' attention from analyzing their conditions by encouraging them to focus on tiny broken parts rather than the entire decrepit machine.