Again, Alexa's pagerank for the MIM website you've cited in this thread is pretty clearly the pagerank of your webhost, as no two websites can have the same pagerank, the two pageranks are identical, and it clearly displays etext.org under the site information and statistics. While you apparently have no understanding of the internet, your MIM website is not an independent domain. It's a section of a larger site ("The Etext Archives" of Ann Arbor, MI according to the Alexa pagerank you cite), much like www.ernesto-guevara.com/forums is still a part of www.ernesto-guevara.com.

I don't give a flying fuck about your pathetic internet adventures. And while your ridiculously inflated sense of self-importance is amusing, I seriously doubt the FBI does either.

Thank you, Sensitive says it as it is. Furthermore, I found the thread about RedComrades that these lunatics are talking about. Here is what Mazdak said:

Incredible! it was there i got much of my information from. It seems hard to believe..


http://www.socialistfront.org/forum/index....T&f=2&t=560&hl=

As we could see, the one alledged "connection" between us and the alledged FBI informers at RedComrades dosen't even hold water. Leave it up to nutcases like these to come up with that kind of outrageous theory.

I'm also going to leave this fucking site. It's absolutely overrun by morons who think that singling out wimmin, Jews, or homosexuals for abuse is somehow consistent with Marxist politics. Few of the people here are at all serious about Marxism, which is why the level of debate is so low. The attempt to ban mim3 for exposing FBI and Nazi activity on this board really says it all.

Go ahead and ban me if you don't like to hear that.

mim3 for MIM:
Good point Berserk, Mazdak never did believe it, either because he was hard-core all along or because others willingly fed him fantasy so he could avoid the question.

Now if Mazdak had come clean instead of standing in a suspended state of animation/fantasy--relations would be better.

I've never seen Mazdak denounce the "Red Comrades" since then.

RAF is also on record for them.

As I recall correctly, there was a lot of writing in cryllic under the Mussolini work at the NBP website. How do we know that there is no "thorough criticism"? Do you speak Russian?

And Lenin was also influenced by Mussolini's early works.

Again, Strasser and all of his followers were slaughtered by Hitler because he did not believe in German expansionism and did not emphasize race. I could care less if he was "Hitler's #2." Pinochet was #1 in the military during Allende's presidency also.

Your che-lives friends who I could care less about (Malte, CyM, etc.) They are actually even less fanatical about it than you are.

mim3 for MIM:
Can you read medyvv? The page rank is a SUB-STATISTIC. The report I showed you was a list of rankings and I NEVER made an argument about the page-rank.

Again, because MIM does fall behind CP=U$A and WWP sometimes in the rankings (depending on what day you pull it up) (NOT THE PAGE RANKINGS SUBSECTION OF THE REPORT THAT I NEVER REFERRED TO, MORON), it is not possible that MIM's ranking is based on the overall etext ranking and you ought to have the integrity to admit it.

What the fuck ever, man. We're not abusing anyone, we just nitpick at the flaws of bourgeois Yankee society. We're more serious about Marxism than the retarded "organization" known as "MIM." When you do a "Maoist" analysis of a movie like Star Trek, your credibility falls down the toilet, and nobody will take you seriously. Hell, no one takes you seriously after believing RAF= Royal Air Force and not Red Army Faction.

Mazdak was surprised at the "fascism" behind Red Comrades. That was the context his post was in. And I could care less if he didn't criticize Red Comrades afterwards, that still dosen't mean he agrees with them, or even supports them.

That crank "exposed" nothing and all of his arguments have been thoroughly debunked. You claim to be official representatives of your political party and you are blatantly LYING about certain members of this message board on your official website. You are most definitely libelling* us, and we would have every right to ban you and take whatever action is necessary to stop you from doing this.

* Libel - A false publication in writing, printing, or typewriting or in signs or pictures that maliciously damages a person's reputation. b. The act or an instance of presenting such a statement to the public.

Don't let the door hit you in the ass.

mim3 for MIM replies:

The most, the absolute most "fairness" I can give to the NBP is this. I do not call them "Hitlerist." However, there were high-ranking Nazis who opposed racial theories and suggested allying with Slavs for example to win the war against the Soviet Union. And they were NOT booted out for that.

So again, you dig your hole deeper, Sensitive, because technically-speaking the non-racial line could be Nazi. If anything, I've been generous to you and your friends here by using the word "neo-Nazi" symps.

As for your ridiculous blanket statements about people here, you can not speak for all the neo-Nazi symps in this forum.

For example, we have yet to hear from Ixabert about racial mixing/bloodline.
I suspect if we pushed some others here, they would have problems with it too, which is why Ward Churchill IS relevant. So unless you are going to do a roll-call here, avoid blanket generalizations Sensitive. You don't know what you are talking about.

Also, Berserk's line against opening borders is seen by NBP itself as opposing racial mixing. Why? Because if everybody stays where they are, that will be the substantial effect. So they may not buy Hitler's version of racial theories, but that does not mean they are not firmly in the Nazi tradition.

Actually, Sensitive is right. You are using libelous and slanderous acts against us. I am not a neo-Nazi. You don't have any evidence to prove that I am one. You just cooked up a bullshit story to label us because you got mad at the fact that people here were too smart to fall for your rhetoric, and that you couldn't handle conversation with us unless you twisted your words to the Nth degree.

mim3 for MIM:
The Mussolini book is distributed "as is" with no criticism.

My "line" against opening borders is on account of the conditions of neo-slavery amongst immigrants and the expansion of global capitalism through breaking down barriers. I could care less if a side effect of that stops race mixing (what about multi-racial nations?). Does someone need to mix races in order to not be a "Nazi"?

mim3 for MIM:
And you're a bad joke if you base anything on an acronym.

The NBP does not fully support the Strasser brothers anyway, or else they would specifically define themselves as Strasserites. They state on their website that they are not Strasserites, and explain their ideological disagreements with them.

Using that same logic, one could be hold a "non-class line" and still be a Marxist-Leninist. Nope. And if you're implying that simplying being a NSDAP member makes one a Nazi, then you must also admit that everyone who was a CP-SU member was a Marxist-Leninist (even Trotsky!).

Weak comeback if I ever heard one. You know I raise a good point. By the way, why don't you prove that I'm a neo-Nazi, huh? Yeah, I'd love to see you try dodging your way through this "explanation" now.

You haven't answered my question. If you read cryllic, please translate everything written under the Mussolini publication or shut up.

PS: even if it was, it is no more proof of them being "fascist" than them upholding Stalin is proof that they are communists. You aren't taking everything into account, only what suits your argument.

mim3 for MIM:
Wow, now Sensitive says that Nazis and Marxist-Leninists are parallel so that analogy works? Jeez, I thought Marxism-Leninism was a little tougher than
"seig heil" and all that.

Whether or not the NBP calls themselves Strasserite or not hardly matters. The fact remains that Strasser blazed their trail--admiring both Stalin and Mussolini.
And Strasser WAS a top-ranking Nazi, not even just a neo-Nazi. NBP falls within that range of thought.

Stalin did purge people who were not real Marxist-Leninist. Hitler did not purge all the people who openly opposed his racial theories. How's that for an analogy, now that you've started them Sensitive?

So once again, NBP is not "Hitlerite" as they used to say in the 1940s, but it's generous to call them "neo-Nazi." And as I've said people including those not affiliated with MIM have seen them LITERALLY RECRUIT as OPEN neo-Nazis.
FACTS, not fantasies.

Fantasize all you want as I'm sure some of you will, thanks to the tough situation in the imperialist countries and all the sugar-coated bullets available.

This post has been edited by mim3 on Feb 21 2005, 06:07 AM