From aptly self-titled "socialism4ever" on
www.ernesto-guevara.com:
Well, if Bob
Avakian isn't good enough for you, why don't you
name a leader who is? Name someone else you think
is capable of leading a revolution and smashing
U.S. Imperialism...
Oh wait!
You MIMers don't think a revolution is possible in
the US because all the poor people in the US are
just as bad as the bourgiosie...
forgive me, I was trying to reason with someone
who thinks that the starving homeless people on
the streets are "exploiters".
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mim3 for MIM:
I have to apologize, because it looks like some
people intending to uphold MIM line earlier in the
thread are nonetheless dragging out this thread
when that is not our policy.
Pro-MIM and pro-RCP people: it's really very
simple. Send in your comments on RCP-related
topics to mim3 for posting on the MIM page. You
are outraged one way or another? Good, just send
it in.
Previous threads like this one have ended up
getting removed. www.sovietrevolution.com closed
down soon after RCP line was exposed.
www.2changetheworld.info was closed down as some
attempted to expose the RCP=U$A line. PoFo deletes
MIM threads even if MIM does not start them.
Meanwhile, the MIM website has gone steady and has
served as a longer archive/record than any of
those.
MIM is prepared to disown those carrying out this
tit-for-tat with RCP=u$a outside the etext. People
from Rcp=U$a who want to argue the MIM line
against Avakian should just do it. Just say, "as
devil's advocate, what about what MIM said
here..."
As for the substance of the question, I can easily
name a better leader than Bob Avakian--Howard
Dean. Bob Avakian represents exploiters and
pollutes Marxism internally. Meanwhile, Howard
Dean openly represents exploiters. It would be
much better if Howard Dean took over RCP=U$A,
because as an open representative of exploiters it
would be easier to shoot him down. Open bourgeois
politics is to be preferred to revisionism.
That's another way of saying MIM has never been
interested in contending for the RCP=U$a members,
and that goes back to 1983. Over time, it has
become more clear that this decision was correct.
It is not just a leadership question. The rank-
and-file RCP=u$a fans demonstrate no restiveness
on the question of exploitation either.
Now I'm going to turn this question to why they do
this at RCP=U$a. It's a combination of Trotskyist
and cop interests. First of all, the Trotsky/Wang
Ming types see nothing cardinal to questions of
conditions in their own countries/societies. These
insecure types are more interested in mutual press
releases than understanding conditions in
imperialist countries. So for these Wang
Ming types, the question arises why MIM's
third cardinal on the labor aristocacy is really
cardinal. They can't think of any reason why
questions inside their own countries should be
cardinal, even when it comes to separating
exploited from exploiter.
Secondly, the RCP=U$A has a people-oriented
approach to politics instead of a line-oriented
one. They tell you who is in charge and who is
not. This allows anybody who likes vague pre-
scientific philosophising by Avakian to call
themselves a member of the RCp=U$A. The
counterpart in Buddhism would be "pure land
Buddhism," where they chant something a few times
after instruction from a monk and allegedly attain
highest consciousness.
That's why MIM does not engage at that level. We
don't want the equivalent of pure land Buddhists
calling themselves Marxist-Leninist-Maoist. They
belong in mass organizations led by the party, not
the party itself.
The people-oriented approach leads
to a paradise for cops. First comes identity
politics where people fixate on why Avakian is not
Black. They can advocate that and ask all comers
their race, age, height, eye color etc. They've
already done that--bait MIM and others for cop
information right on their website.
RCP=U$A is training its members and followers to
use the method of vouching for each other on
security and tracking down info cops would want to
know. That makes it much easier to spread info
cops want to know, because it's being done in the
guise of making revolution. Someone needs to tell
these folks that doing things cops ordinarily do
is not making revolution. That's the bourgeoisie's
strength, not the proletariat's.
MIM assumes a certain percentage of cops. MIM does
not ask questions cops would want to know the
answers to. RCP=U$A does and calls it service to
Avakian. RCP=u$A liberals will never understand
the correct line. They tire of the real issues and
change the subject to individuals, their favorite
one being Avakian with the
cute cap.