New Zealand and India: 
Doing a thorough investigation of communist-appearing websites

from International Minister June 2005

http://revolution.org.nz/

Let's try this organization.

How do we evaulate it? Some of its statements seem 
pretty vague. Take the list of words they are for 
and against for example. They're for gay 
liberation but against feminism. This is not a lot 
to go on.

One way to evaluate a page without much clarity or 
few documents is to look at its practice. Who does 
it link to?

If we check links: the first link is to the 4th 
International--Trotsky's international 
organization. Click on the International Communist 
Union to see that.

Does everyone see that? Can we go through this 
step by step?

The next link is to Lutte Ouvriere, which may be 
an organization that started with Maoist history 
but is now Trotskyist--not surprising given the 
lack of demarcation on the parasitism question in 
France. To see commentary in English on this 
organization, go here: 
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2002/jun2002/lo-j17.shtml

OK, so we start to get the drift here for this 
"Revolution" website in New Zealand.

Now let's go to another website.

http://www.peoplesmarch.com/publications/publications.htm 
This looks pretty serious and indeed it is.

Now let's go here: 
http://www.peoplesmarch.com/links/links.htm

Choose revolutionary links: Well, what do we see? 
www.revolution.org.nz

Does everyone see that? <a 
href="peoplesmarchlinks.htm">Links for People's 
March</a>

People's March website claims to be reporting on 
Maoism in India. Do the organizations there know 
there is a website putting up its documents and 
linking the website to the 4th International? 
Suddenly it seems that we cannot take 
www.peoplesmarch.com very seriously. A link like 
that should be accompanied by criticism or not be 
made.

MIM finds it unlikely that any real Maoists know 
what is going on here. One thing we can be sure of 
though, is that the RąP=u$A knows it. People's 
March links to the 4th International and RąP=u$A. 
Why not?

Then there is another link--one to the Workers 
Party of New Zealand. <a 
href="workerspartyofnewzealand.TX
T">This party MIM has already covered the news on 
on its crypto-Trotsky page--that it now takes pro-
Trotsky members.</a> That was a year ago. They 
could have listened to MIM and changed their ways, 
but they did not and nor did others affiliated with them.

It is now June 2005 and People's March still links 
to Workers Party of New Zealand, unlike Kanadians 
allied with crypto-Trotskyism (which had the sense 
to take it down.) But why not? Peoplesmarch.com 
links to the RąP=u$A too.

True, at the bottom the note says they do not 
necessarily endorse the links. On the other hand, 
they are listed in the "revolutionary links" 
section, not culture or something else. MIM would 
list them in the "counterrevolutionary links" 
section. Linking to Trotskyists is an action that 
the peoplesmarch.com website took. MIM has been 
criticizing RąP=u$A crypto-Trotskyism for years, 
but some still do not listen and we cannot stand 
back forever and let peoplesmarch.com misrepresent 
Maoism in South Asia. Could some of those 
documents on peoplesmarch.com be genuine? Are some 
completely bogus? Yes, some are bogus. 
Unfortunately, we have to go carefully when it 
comes to trying to obtain the authentic intentions 
of people spread by thousands of kilometers, 
especially where a Western-dominated Comintern has 
raised its ugly head.

Out of thousands of so-called leftist 
organizations on the web, the peoplesmarch.com is 
linking to crypto-Trotskyist and Trotskyist 
organizations. If peoplesmarch.com wanted just to 
serve as a launching point, why not just point to 
a website like 
http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/1884/links.html ? 
And don't call them "revolutionary."

Instead of thousands of links or one link to 
thousands, peoplesmarch.com took 25. Three are 
defunct. Two are openly Trotskyist. 4 more links 
are u.$. crypto-Trotskyist links. Of the rest, 
only a few are likely to know of RąP=u$A's 
Trotskyist links, though they are certainly guilty 
of tolerating the RąP=u$A.

For that matter, RąP=u$A also links to 
peoplesmarch.com of course. Has the  RąP=u$A 
criticized open Trotskyism among its allies? Of 
course not. How could it given its plans for 
permanent revolution and a centralized world 
party, its representation of the labor aristocracy 
and <a href="../../../classics/trotskypeoplemanager.txt">its approach of putting people above line?</a>